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Error in RESTART of FREQCALC calculation

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  • aerbaundefined Offline
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    wrote last edited by aerba
    #9

    Hi,

    I have run some calculations on your case following my step-by step recipe (as described at https://forum.crystalsolutions.eu/post/339, which I have now edited to include the intensity step), and the restart now works just fine (i.e. without the annoying "possibly conducting state", and with a nice convergence of the further SCFs upon restart).

    This is what I did:

    • I took the optimized geometry from your original output file and I created a new input file for a single-point calculation. I ran it and obtained the wavefunction external file (i.e. fort.9 unit);

    • I prepared an input file to run the harmonic frequency calculation, I ran it and I killed it in the middle of the construction of the Hessian. From this incomplete frequency calculation, I obtained the FREQINFO.DAT file and the external unit with the density matrix, i.e. fort.13 unit;

    • I prepared an input file to restart the frequency calculation and provided the FREQINFO.DAT and fort.13 files from the previous step and the fort.9 (renamed as fort.20) from the first step, and ran it. The calculation of the Hessian restarted correctly, with the new SCFs converging nicely (see the attached SCFOUT.LOG file). I then stopped the calculation not to use too much compute power on my cluster.

    If you follow this step-by-step process you'll be able to safely restart your frequency calculations.

    Hope this helps,

    Alessandro Erba
    Professor of Physical Chemistry
    Department of Chemistry, University of Torino
    [email protected]

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    • PeterRemotoundefined Offline
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      #10

      Hey, just to add onto this, I'm getting a similar error where the SCF won't wouldn't converge upon restart - but only occurs with certain structures.
      When I do with the restart with CRYSTAL17, it works perfectly - it's odd that it only happens on restart because when I lower the criteria, it doesn't need a restart and completes the calculation - but I can't keep lowering the tolerance criteria when I encounter this issue.

      CRYSTAL17 succesful restart:
      BLACTO_PBE_D3_AhTZVP_FREQ_4_4-53910034 - CRYSTAL17 success..out
      CRYSTAL23 unsucessful restart + SCFOUT:
      BLACTO_PBE_D3_AhTZVP_FREQ_4_4-53437836.out
      SCFOUT.LOG

      Any ideas around this?

      I've also included a plot of the DETOT from the SCFOUT.LOG files - where the successful one was from CRYSTAL17

      detot_vs_cycle_CRYSTAL17_SUCCESS_CYC0tomax.png

      The then rest from CRYSTAL23
      detot_vs_cycle_CRYSTAL23_FAIL_CYC0tomax.png detot_vs_cycle_CRYSTAL23_FAIL_CYC300tomax.png detot_vs_cycle_CRYSTAL23_FAIL_CYC1000tomax.PNG

      Our HPC platform provider said it was not an issue on their end and advised to seek support from the CRYSTAL team. Just to add on, our HPC platform provider also said I can't use the CRYSTAL17 anymore because they can't build the architecture on their new upgrade which, honestly, I don't really understand why.

      Happy to discuss,
      Peter

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      • aerbaundefined Offline
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        wrote last edited by
        #11

        Hi,

        By the looks of it, it may be due to some mismatch in the restart units. I am happy to run some tests. Could you share your input files for this case?

        Alessandro Erba
        Professor of Physical Chemistry
        Department of Chemistry, University of Torino
        [email protected]

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          PeterRemoto
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          #12

          Sure, I've uploaded the files input files in this link because it exceeded the file size limit to upload them in this comment:
          https://otagouni-my.sharepoint.com/:f:/g/personal/rempe782_student_otago_ac_nz/EmtG3VsEJYJArghuK_IF1x0BvJNBiYsE1mrbQELFWOE1-A?e=NhXhQs

          Used the same inputs (.d12, fort.9, fort.13, fort.20, FREQINFO.DAT) for to do the frequency calculation restarts for CRYSTAL17 and 23

          Thanks heaps

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            replied to aerba last edited by
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            aerba said in Error in RESTART of FREQCALC calculation:

            Hi,

            I have run some calculations on your case following my step-by step recipe (as described at https://forum.crystalsolutions.eu/post/339, which I have now edited to include the intensity step), and the restart now works just fine (i.e. without the annoying "possibly conducting state", and with a nice convergence of the further SCFs upon restart).

            This is what I did:

            • I took the optimized geometry from your original output file and I created a new input file for a single-point calculation. I ran it and obtained the wavefunction external file (i.e. fort.9 unit);

            • I prepared an input file to run the harmonic frequency calculation, I ran it and I killed it in the middle of the construction of the Hessian. From this incomplete frequency calculation, I obtained the FREQINFO.DAT file and the external unit with the density matrix, i.e. fort.13 unit;

            • I prepared an input file to restart the frequency calculation and provided the FREQINFO.DAT and fort.13 files from the previous step and the fort.9 (renamed as fort.20) from the first step, and ran it. The calculation of the Hessian restarted correctly, with the new SCFs converging nicely (see the attached SCFOUT.LOG file). I then stopped the calculation not to use too much compute power on my cluster.

            If you follow this step-by-step process you'll be able to safely restart your frequency calculations.

            Hope this helps,

            thank you and I am trying to do that

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            • aerbaundefined Offline
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              replied to PeterRemoto last edited by
              #14

              PeterRemoto I just started running some tests on this case. I will keep you posted on how it goes.

              Alessandro Erba
              Professor of Physical Chemistry
              Department of Chemistry, University of Torino
              [email protected]

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                replied to PeterRemoto last edited by
                #15

                PeterRemoto I started drafting a reply but encountered problems in uploading the files. Will try later.

                Alessandro Erba
                Professor of Physical Chemistry
                Department of Chemistry, University of Torino
                [email protected]

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                  replied to aerba last edited by
                  #16

                  aerba I saw it earlier and glad that a nice solution was found. Thank you so much - this has actually stumped me months ago before getting busy with other projects. I was wondering though, any thoughts on why this frequency restart issue is happening to a handful of structures for CRYSTAL23 but then the restarts worked fine for 17?

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                    #17

                    PeterRemoto I have tried to restart your calculation with CRYSTAL23 following my step-by-step recipe (described at https://forum.crystalsolutions.eu/post/339) and it worked.

                    This is what I did:

                    • I prepared an input file to run the harmonic frequency calculation, without intensities, I ran it and I killed it in the middle of the construction of the Hessian. From this incomplete frequency calculation, I obtained the FREQINFO.DAT file (I can not upload it here as it exceeds the maximum allowed file size), the external unit with the density matrix, i.e. fort.13 unit, and the external unit with the wavefunction, i.e. fort.9;

                    • I prepared an input file to restart the frequency calculation and provided the FREQINFO.DAT, fort.13 and the fort.9 (renamed as fort.20) files from the previous step, and ran it. The calculation of the Hessian restarted correctly, with the new SCFs converging nicely (see the attached SCFOUT.LOG file). I then stopped the calculation not to use too much compute power on my cluster.

                    If you follow this step-by-step process you'll be able to safely restart your frequency calculations with CRYSTAL23.

                    Hope this helps,

                    Alessandro Erba
                    Professor of Physical Chemistry
                    Department of Chemistry, University of Torino
                    [email protected]

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                    • aerbaundefined Offline
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                      replied to PeterRemoto last edited by
                      #18

                      PeterRemoto At the moment I am afraid I do not have an explanation for the difference you experienced between CRYSTAL17 and CRYSTAL23 as I am unable to reproduce the erratic behavior with CRYSTAL23.

                      Alessandro Erba
                      Professor of Physical Chemistry
                      Department of Chemistry, University of Torino
                      [email protected]

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