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Error in RESTART of FREQCALC calculation

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    It is tough, Alessandro. Restarting frequency calculations (or just running them) is unpredictable. It runs normally, then if it stops out of time and is restarted, many times it does not run for one reason or the other - see a random restart abort below. It is tough, perhaps I will learn something by doing them but I now normally just start form scratch

    DIIS TEST: 0.85073E-04 AT CPHF CYCLE 9 - DIIS ACTIVE - HISTORY: 9 CYCLES
    CYCLE 9 ALPHA 278.474328 EPSILON 2.093136 DELTA 4.8487E-04
    forrtl: severe (256): unformatted I/O to unit open for formatted transfers, unit 85, file /dev/null
    Image PC Routine Line Source
    Pcrystal 0000000007374206 Unknown Unknown Unknown
    Pcrystal 0000000001BA179E Unknown Unknown Unknown
    Pcrystal 0000000000A8038B Unknown Unknown Unknown

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      Alessandro, to prove the point how difficult these restarts are, I copied FREQINFO.DAT from the first frequency calculation, fort.13 unit, and fort.9, renamed fort.20 in the new scratch folder, grabbed the last optc file from the converged geometry optimization. Tried the restart with GUESSP since I am getting conducting state otherwise. Right away I have problems where my old and new vectors via GUESSP are different. why?

      INFORMATION FROM INTEGRAL EVALUATION

      RESTART FROM A PREVIOUS RUN FOCK MATRIX - DEP ACTIVE
      NUMBER OF COUPLE SETS (NEW, OLD, FOUND): 50745 15118 15039
      NUMBER OF IRREDUCIBLE G VECTORS : 71990 64543 63141

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        Alessando, can I send you the files above so you can please try a restart? My restarts end up being conducting state and do not converge

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          Yes, please, send me all the files.

          Alessandro Erba
          Professor of Physical Chemistry
          Department of Chemistry, University of Torino
          [email protected]

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            job314 I am running some tests now. I reproduced your "possibly conducting state" problem. Let me try a couple of things.

            Alessandro Erba
            Professor of Physical Chemistry
            Department of Chemistry, University of Torino
            [email protected]

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              Whew... At least you got it... It is uncanny how a normally job, aborted, can't be restarted since it can't converge SCF all of a sudden...

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                Hi,

                I have run some calculations on your case following my step-by step recipe (as described at https://forum.crystalsolutions.eu/post/339, which I have now edited to include the intensity step), and the restart now works just fine (i.e. without the annoying "possibly conducting state", and with a nice convergence of the further SCFs upon restart).

                This is what I did:

                • I took the optimized geometry from your original output file and I created a new input file for a single-point calculation. I ran it and obtained the wavefunction external file (i.e. fort.9 unit);

                • I prepared an input file to run the harmonic frequency calculation, I ran it and I killed it in the middle of the construction of the Hessian. From this incomplete frequency calculation, I obtained the FREQINFO.DAT file and the external unit with the density matrix, i.e. fort.13 unit;

                • I prepared an input file to restart the frequency calculation and provided the FREQINFO.DAT and fort.13 files from the previous step and the fort.9 (renamed as fort.20) from the first step, and ran it. The calculation of the Hessian restarted correctly, with the new SCFs converging nicely (see the attached SCFOUT.LOG file). I then stopped the calculation not to use too much compute power on my cluster.

                If you follow this step-by-step process you'll be able to safely restart your frequency calculations.

                Hope this helps,

                Alessandro Erba
                Professor of Physical Chemistry
                Department of Chemistry, University of Torino
                [email protected]

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                  Hey, just to add onto this, I'm getting a similar error where the SCF won't wouldn't converge upon restart - but only occurs with certain structures.
                  When I do with the restart with CRYSTAL17, it works perfectly - it's odd that it only happens on restart because when I lower the criteria, it doesn't need a restart and completes the calculation - but I can't keep lowering the tolerance criteria when I encounter this issue.

                  CRYSTAL17 succesful restart:
                  BLACTO_PBE_D3_AhTZVP_FREQ_4_4-53910034 - CRYSTAL17 success..out
                  CRYSTAL23 unsucessful restart + SCFOUT:
                  BLACTO_PBE_D3_AhTZVP_FREQ_4_4-53437836.out
                  SCFOUT.LOG

                  Any ideas around this?

                  I've also included a plot of the DETOT from the SCFOUT.LOG files - where the successful one was from CRYSTAL17

                  detot_vs_cycle_CRYSTAL17_SUCCESS_CYC0tomax.png

                  The then rest from CRYSTAL23
                  detot_vs_cycle_CRYSTAL23_FAIL_CYC0tomax.png detot_vs_cycle_CRYSTAL23_FAIL_CYC300tomax.png detot_vs_cycle_CRYSTAL23_FAIL_CYC1000tomax.PNG

                  Our HPC platform provider said it was not an issue on their end and advised to seek support from the CRYSTAL team. Just to add on, our HPC platform provider also said I can't use the CRYSTAL17 anymore because they can't build the architecture on their new upgrade which, honestly, I don't really understand why.

                  Happy to discuss,
                  Peter

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                    Hi,

                    By the looks of it, it may be due to some mismatch in the restart units. I am happy to run some tests. Could you share your input files for this case?

                    Alessandro Erba
                    Professor of Physical Chemistry
                    Department of Chemistry, University of Torino
                    [email protected]

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                      Sure, I've uploaded the files input files in this link because it exceeded the file size limit to upload them in this comment:
                      https://otagouni-my.sharepoint.com/:f:/g/personal/rempe782_student_otago_ac_nz/EmtG3VsEJYJArghuK_IF1x0BvJNBiYsE1mrbQELFWOE1-A?e=NhXhQs

                      Used the same inputs (.d12, fort.9, fort.13, fort.20, FREQINFO.DAT) for to do the frequency calculation restarts for CRYSTAL17 and 23

                      Thanks heaps

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